Comments on: SharePoint and TDD – The other view http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/ Fri, 12 Mar 2010 07:58:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: dog fence http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-877 dog fence Wed, 13 May 2009 12:14:08 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-877 pair programming in his complete dismissal of the approach which is Shared Knowledge.lack of knowledge, poor quality developers, and also the ability to be able to actually code against SharePoint before you try something so difficult as unit testing. pair programming in his complete dismissal of the approach which is Shared Knowledge.lack of knowledge, poor quality developers, and also the ability to be able to actually code against SharePoint before you try something so difficult as unit testing.

]]> By: Gil Zilberfeld http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-793 Gil Zilberfeld Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:42:24 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-793 And pair programming requires patience. I think that's what makes it not-for-everyone, because we all have different limits of discipline and patience. Actually in the same way that Pair Programming requires discipline, it is somewhat like TDD, isn't it? Anyway, it all comes down to the fluffy idea-bucket we call professionalism. It combines all the skills, experience and mindset. If you strive to be a professional, you need to grow in multiple facets, and these too are pivotal examples. And pair programming requires patience. I think that’s what makes it not-for-everyone, because we all have different limits of discipline and patience.

Actually in the same way that Pair Programming requires discipline, it is somewhat like TDD, isn’t it?

Anyway, it all comes down to the fluffy idea-bucket we call professionalism. It combines all the skills, experience and mindset. If you strive to be a professional, you need to grow in multiple facets, and these too are pivotal examples.

]]> By: Andrew Woodward http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-792 Andrew Woodward Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:23:59 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-792 Rick/Casey, both very good points. Doing pairing needs skills, training and experience to get the best. Much like doing SharePoint development. Rick/Casey, both very good points. Doing pairing needs skills, training and experience to get the best. Much like doing SharePoint development.

]]> By: Rick Kierner http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Rick Kierner Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:21:28 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-791 Thank you for splitting the ideas of TDD and Pair Programming. One other note. Pair Programming will fail to be productive/effective quite often when someone hasn't been taught how to pair. Much like any other activity, if you haven't learned how to do it correctly from someone who has done it successfully, you'll have a tougher time getting it to work correctly. Trial and error is painful with pairing. Thank you for splitting the ideas of TDD and Pair Programming.

One other note. Pair Programming will fail to be productive/effective quite often when someone hasn’t been taught how to pair. Much like any other activity, if you haven’t learned how to do it correctly from someone who has done it successfully, you’ll have a tougher time getting it to work correctly.

Trial and error is painful with pairing.

]]> By: SPTDD: On Good Vs. Testable Code « Solutionizing .NET http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-790 SPTDD: On Good Vs. Testable Code « Solutionizing .NET Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:44:48 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-790 [...] for posting his thoughts to spark a more public discussion. Also, check out Andrew Woodward’s first rebuttal and other posts on SharePoint and TDD (particularly Unit Testing SharePoint Solutions - Getting [...] [...] for posting his thoughts to spark a more public discussion. Also, check out Andrew Woodward’s first rebuttal and other posts on SharePoint and TDD (particularly Unit Testing SharePoint Solutions – Getting [...]

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]]> By: Casey http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/comment-page-1/#comment-787 Casey Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:24:43 +0000 http://www.21apps.com/sharepoint/sharepoint-and-tdd-the-other-view/#comment-787 Pair programming requires a team of developers - not a group of individuals. When you have a team, who can think alike, can critique each other without damaging egos, and who all have a desire to learn - then pair programming is a great way to work. The biggest inhibitor to pair programming is insecurity. Pair programming requires a team of developers – not a group of individuals. When you have a team, who can think alike, can critique each other without damaging egos, and who all have a desire to learn – then pair programming is a great way to work.

The biggest inhibitor to pair programming is insecurity.

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